The International Race of Hammpions Episode 05 - It’s Morning Somewhere

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Caleb [00:00]: Good morning and welcome to the international race of Hampians. Coming to you live from where you get your podcast. So tonight we have Geno, Justin, and I’m Caleb. And let’s get started, y’.

Geno [00:16]: All. All right, hey, point of order, everybody. It is firmly afternoon.

Caleb [00:24]: It’s morning somewhere.

Geno [00:26]: Yeah, in the eastern hemisphere, maybe.

Justin [00:30]: Caleb’s all. Caleb’s always getting the. The hour of the day all over the place in these intros and outros. It actually kind of adds some character to the podcast. We should keep it.

Geno [00:41]: Caleb, you may be in a different hemisphere, but it ain’t one where it’s morning right now.

Justin [00:47]: It’s true. No, and I just want to go up front and say that this episode. This episode might be a little bit off sounding for me because I’m on a lot of a delay because my Internet right now is not very good. Hopefully it’s not as bad on the actual recording, but because of the. This being over the Internet with us interacting, I’m gonna have some. I’m gonna be talking over people.

Geno [01:18]: I’m sure it’s been pretty good since you turned the video off.

Justin [01:22]: Yeah, I still tell. There’s a pretty decent delay, but it’s better.

Caleb [01:29]: I will say through the magic of audacity, I can edit the pauses down to make it feel like it flows better.

Geno [01:37]: Alrighty.

Justin [01:38]: Oh, yeah, I forgot anything it can’t do. Fix it in post.

Caleb [01:44]: Fix it in post. Do it live.

Justin [01:49]: Actually, you know what? Gino’s right. Fixing it in post can fix anything, including lack of podcasts. So I don’t even think we have to record. Just fix it in post.

Geno [02:04]: We’ll just put over some. Some copyrighted songs in like 5 second increments so it’s not enough to get a flag. And that’ll be a podcast.

Justin [02:14]: All right. Call it a night. We’re good.

Geno [02:16]: That’s a wrap, cut and print. All right. It’s Miller time.

Justin [02:25]: Yes.

Caleb [02:27]: No.

Geno [02:29]: All right. We do actually have some stuff to discuss today, don’t we?

Caleb [02:33]: I feel like we do. Including your sketchy rust removal and the back of a menards.

Geno [02:40]: Oh, no.

Justin [02:41]: Oh, and you know what? Wait, you know what? We got to not. We know what we got to not forget about. We got to cover this very important and on. On topic news. The freaking Ferrari, Luce.

Caleb [02:53]: Oh, God, it’s.

Justin [02:55]: We. We gotta share our opinions on that at some point. I’m thinking. I’m thinking. No, I guess we could talk about that now. But we. We. We. Let’s see. We got. We got to talk about the rust stuff. And then I want to get into.

Caleb [03:10]: I think we. I was going to say I think we do veluche at the end, you know, as kind of a treat for those who put up with us long enough.

Justin [03:20]: Yeah, that feels, that feels like.

Geno [03:22]: A better say about it because I just looked it up and I’m gonna have to hold that thought in because I have a two word point about that vehicle and write it down, you’ll hear it. Oh, I won’t forget it. I won’t forget it because that’s what I’m going to call this. This vehicle for all time.

Justin [03:47]: I’m excited. It’s a vehicle. It is a four wheeled vehicle.

Geno [03:57]: I’m not trying to oversell it. It’s not that good. But it’s very much this. It’s what this car deserves. Any who’s will be.

Justin [04:12]: Anywho, what sort of Midwest shenanigans happen?

Geno [04:16]: Am I kicking off with my Menards short story or are we.

Caleb [04:20]: Yeah, let’s kick off with Menards. Let’s take a trip to Menards.

Geno [04:26]: All right.

Justin [04:26]: We’re saving big money.

Geno [04:27]: So. So I got off of work today and on my way to work my gas light went on so as did my tire pressure light, but that’s another story. So on my way home from work I stop at a quick trip, Wisconsin and Minnesota’s finest gas stain gas station chain. I can speak English and I get myself a a mega buddy fountain drink, shout out diet Dr. Pepper and fill my Subaru up with the non Subaru recommended E1588 octane because it’s cheaper and I don’t care about this car.

Justin [05:19]: Let her.

Geno [05:19]: As I am walking into the store and as I’m walking into the store after filling up the tank, a guy pulls up in a beat up I want to say third gen Ranger and says something to me which I don’t initially understand. I look at him, he’s like I can fix those dents in the side of your car. And I say okay, tell me less. But actually more oh backstory for this. So the other last week I was visiting my local public library and the parking lot was less full than I had anticipated. So I decided to park on the other side of the parking lot. That’s closer. And as I’m turning at the end of the row, a stray bollard jumps out at me and crumples up both of my driver side doors out of nowhere.

Geno [06:24]: I wasn’t even drunk or on my phone or nothing. It’s really Embarrassing. Anyway,.

Caleb [06:31]: What color was this bollard?

Geno [06:34]: It was bright yellow, thanks for asking. In my defense, it was hiding behind another identical bollard, which I did see. And after that I made a turn but then there was another bollard six feet behind it. So I hit that one.

Justin [06:55]: Well, that’s just rude. You should have known to not be there.

Geno [06:59]: I know. I went back later and looked at is hard to see from certain angles because there is a lot of different colored paint on that bollard and somebody.

Justin [07:10]: Needs to put a sign up that says I can. Hey, there’s a bollard here.

Geno [07:16]: It. It is what it is. The parking lot should be redesigned. But anyway, this fellow in this beat up Ranger says he can fix my doors and I say I’ve already bought new doors for it at a junkyard. He’s like, well you could return them. I can pull this out and it’ll be close, you know, 90% good. I said, but the doors I got are 100% good and I’m going to be respraying the whole car anyway with a friend of mine in the best Subaru color available. What is it gentlemen?

Justin [07:50]: World rally blue.

Geno [07:52]: Thank you.

Justin [07:53]: Say, say the line, Bart.

Geno [07:59]: But then he points at the rust hole in my rear quarter panel and says, I can fix that for you. Wait, before I get into this, any guesses as to what the entire quote job was for? Fixing the rust hole and the two doors by this gentleman and his friend.

Justin [08:16]: In the Ranger couple six packs.

Geno [08:19]: Let’s see, half K a math. No, no.

Justin [08:26]: Oh, I thought that was just implied.

Caleb [08:33]: I don’t know, 100 bucks.

Geno [08:36]: How about you, Justin?

Justin [08:37]: Bro said 150, but no it wasn’t.

Geno [08:41]: It was actually a little bit.

Justin [08:43]: No, bro. Bro said. Bro said a buck fifty, but he meant one hundred fifty.

Geno [08:50]: Your warmer. He did say two hundred for the two. The, for both rear quarter rust holes and the doors. And I was like, I thought about it but I already bought paint. Yeah, and three door. Don’t, don’t worry about the third door. That’s another. The Subaru needs three doors. That’s, that’s the important thing. Anyway, he says 200 to do that. And I was like, you know, I’ve already got the doors. I’m just gonna put those on. It’s gonna take. It would take me longer to go back to the junkyard and return them. But he offers to fix the two rust holes for $70. And for that I said, you know what that’s worth? $70 Just to see what the hell you do.

Justin [09:41]: I could go for some $70 worth of entertainment this afternoon.

Geno [09:45]: Yeah. So he asks, you know where I live? Because he’ll just follow me there and do it. He says he’s got the stuff in his truck. I said, I live. I said, I live where I live, which is about 20 minutes away from there. And he’s like, that’s a little far. You want to just hang out here for half an hour and I’ll do it? And I said, I got an idea. I need to get some stuff at Menards up the street in Oakdale. You want to just follow me there and do it there while I go do my shopping? And he says, yeah, that’s fine. So we go to Menards and I buy some stuff for the garden and some lemon pepper, because you can get all of those things at Menards.

Caleb [10:26]: Menards really is the food and stuff from Parks and Rec.

Geno [10:30]: I. I think. Yeah, I think that. No, you’re right. Menards is more food and stuff than Fleet Farm. Fleet Farm is stuff and food. They’re both stuff and food more than their food and stuff. But Menards has more food than. Than Fleet Farm.

Justin [10:49]: Yeah. Has more food than they have any right to. But they still. It’s still stuff first.

Geno [10:58]: Yeah, it is. It is a stuff forward shopping experience establishment. Yeah. So I get out of my car in the Menards parking lot and this guy and his buddy are in the back of the truck and one of them pulls out some of that silver backed tape. And I’m worried, but I go inside anyway.

Justin [11:25]: He’s gonna just put.

Geno [11:28]: I’m gonna be very upset.

Justin [11:31]: He’s just gonna. He’s gonna put. He’s gonna just use AC ducting and cut it out and tape it on and call it a day.

Geno [11:38]: I go inside, I get. I’m working on these weird raised beds that I’m trying to get stuff in quickly. And I buy a. A 36 inch wide concrete mixing T that maybe will sit on top and hold some dirt and a storage bin that’s about the same size. And like I said, lemon pepper, because we’re out. And lemon pepper is delicious.

Caleb [12:00]: Agreed. Fair.

Geno [12:01]: So I go in there, go through my nards. Yeah, I mean, they’re probably 20 minutes or so. Because I like to take my time in Menards because I might see some shit I need walk through the garden center. Their plants at that Menards look like shit. Don’t go to that Menards if you need any plants right now. And I come back up and they’re done, they’re sitting by the truck. He’s having a Coca Cola. And honestly, it looked better than it had any right to the driver’s side. Could use a little more sanding to be perfectly smooth, but it looks pretty good. You know, he splashed some. Some spray paint and some primer on it. There’s a couple of bubbles on the passenger side still. So before I paint it, I’ll probably wire wheel that and hit it with some neutralizer.

Geno [12:47]: But all in all, for 70 bucks, I could have done a worse job myself and have.

Justin [12:56]: Hey, you know what? Yeah, that was it. That was an experiment. Well worth it.

Geno [13:01]: Yeah, well, hey, you know, if. You know, I’ve definitely had cars where if I’d paid that 70 bucks for that work and splashed a little paint that was pretty close on it, I would have been a very happy man. I’ve had several Volvo 240s that could have used that amount of work and would have been very nice looking.

Justin [13:22]: Gotta keep that guy’s contact info then.

Geno [13:25]: Oh, it gets better. He didn’t have a card and he didn’t have a phone number. What? Because a guy at the Quick Trip asked both and he’s just like, oh, well, we’ll be around here. You’ll see us again. I was like, that is a wild business model, my friend. But as long as it occasionally gets you a couple hundred bucks for lock, I’m sure you’re happy. I’ll say. Nine out of ten would do again.

Caleb [13:58]: Ain’t bad.

Justin [13:59]: All right, not bad. That’s definitely some shit that I would see out here. Where I’m at right now, out in redneck land, if there was a Midwest.

Geno [14:10]: Moment like from a quick trip to a Menards.

Justin [14:15]: Yeah. It definitely wouldn’t be out of Menards out here. It’d probably be at the Lowe’s.

Geno [14:20]: Lowe’s are Lowe’s exist here, but there aren’t many of them.

Caleb [14:25]: Yeah, those is. Lowe’s is definitely about three or four steps below Menards.

Geno [14:31]: I will say.

Justin [14:32]: Oh, yeah, no. Lowe’s does not compare.

Geno [14:34]: But the product that I bought to paint my Subaru because Lowe’s carries the Krylon. The Krylon, clear base, tintable, rust, tough enamel.

Caleb [14:50]: You make a really good point with that.

Justin [14:52]: Well, look, you gotta. What you gotta do with when it comes to the hardware stores is you gotta. You gotta be strategic about it. Certain ones have certain different things. Of course, you know, Home Depot’s got some perks. Not a ton, but some. Lowe’s has some perks Sometimes you want to hit up an ace hardware, you know, But Menards definitely has them all beat.

Geno [15:12]: I will say Home Depot has the best app of them all.

Justin [15:16]: Okay. I never use the app. Well, actually, I do use the Menards app. I use the Menards app because. Yeah, because the Menards pushes, you know, their savings and stuff, their rebates and stuff. So much. So I do have the Menards app.

Geno [15:27]: The Menards app is good, but the Home Depot app automatically knows which store you’re in when you open it up by your location data and knows the location in that store of any item you’re looking for. So if I need a specific thing and I’m not looking to browse and I’m in a hurry, Home Depot is a great fit.

Justin [15:50]: I think the Menards app does that, too. I think the Menards app does that, too, because I remember not knowing where something was. What?

Geno [15:58]: The Menards app does it for certain things, but there’s two issues with it. One, it doesn’t always give you a map, depending on the item. And Menards aisles are all over the damn place. The layout does not.

Justin [16:12]: Yes, they are.

Geno [16:12]: The numbers jump.

Justin [16:15]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, you’re right. Yeah, it does. Okay. That is the hardest part, because. Yeah, the sand. The. The store that I would shop at, it does have a map that. But it is just like, everything. It does have a map. It tells you where everything is. But it’s like the layout of the store is confusing as hell. Yeah.

Geno [16:34]: Yeah. Or like, some. Some items, it’ll just be like, it’s in aisle whatever, and you’re like, I don’t know where that aisle is because the numbers go from, like, 175, and then the next aisle is 16. It’s like, what the is going on here? Some items will just say outside yard, and the outside yard at menards is, like, 2 to 3 acres. I don’t know where this is.

Justin [16:59]: No, I bet you. I bet you half the reason they do that is to keep you in the store longer.

Geno [17:05]: I mean, I’m already in Menards for a minimum of an hour most times. Let’s be real.

Justin [17:11]: Hey, I. My quickest Menards trip ever was probably two minutes. Menards is a vibe, but I have had to make, like, a rush Menards run, and it was like, three minutes before they closed, and I ran inside. Like, I know y’ all are about to close. I’m not trying to hold y’ all here. Point me where I need to go for this. And they were like, here. I’ll walk you there. And I was like, boom, bop out. It took two minutes. It was great.

Caleb [17:37]: I was about to say two minute Menards run. I will take stories that did not happen for 500.

Justin [17:48]: Hey. Okay, I’ll elaborate just so you understand. It happened. I was trying to repair my radiator before I got my new radiator and I ran out of JB Weld and I needed more JB Weld asap. So my radiator wasn’t leaking bad enough to not take it around the corner to take the car around the corner to go to Menards to get some more JB Weld. I didn’t think I was going to need that JB Weld that evening, so I didn’t end up getting it earlier in the day. Well, also, it just dropped like two feet of snow. So for the first time ever, my car was actually struggling to get out of my fucking driveway and out of the neighborhood. The road was a little better, but my all wheel drive system like it was like my tires just weren’t good enough.

Justin [18:37]: All wheel drive was, was doing its best and I had to put on some gas like I had to yeet myself out of the real deep snow. And I just barely made it to the Menards on time. And I swear they were like standing at the front door and I was like, I need J.B. weld. Point me to it and I will be out of here as fast as possible. So I swear it happened. It’s the truth, the honest truth.

Caleb [19:04]: I bet that car would be a blast on Brez Expo. Sorry.

Justin [19:08]: Oh my God. Yeah, absolutely. Oh my God. Some Blizzax and then give it a wire in an all wheel drive controller. Give it a, some. Mine doesn’t have a limited slip diff. I don’t think so. Give it a limited slip diff. That thing would kick major ass.

Geno [19:29]: Nokian Hakka polita or nothing.

Justin [19:32]: Oh yo, I love Nokians. I love Nokians. I’ve never run their winners because I’ve never had any reason to, but I’ve actually run, oddly enough, Nokian summer tires, which just seems wrong to do, but they’re good. I like them.

Caleb [19:46]: Yeah, the. I wanted that. I wanted to sav hackers when I had the Roadmaster, but no one around KC carried Nokian tires and the Costco just up the street had the blizzax for 175 a piece. So I ran Blizzax.

Geno [20:10]: Yeah, I had a set of them on my 96960 wagon and they were phenomenal.

Caleb [20:18]: Yeah, that.

Justin [20:20]: Well, speaking of testing out the stagiest traction I can go into my little story about taking it up to the. Yeah. So one of this, one of the things we’re. We’re gonna try and start doing potentially as just an idea maybe for the podcast is little bits just on location bits where we just, we know were somewhere and we see or we drive somewhere because it’s a novel little thing in the area. Or we’re out doing something and we’re like, oh, hey, they’re here. I’m here at this giant tree that I saw back to you. You know, that sort of thing. So we. Of the things that’s around me that I thought was amusing is. I guess this will probably dox me mildly, but it’s just, it’s off a 75.

Justin [21:12]: So like, come on, like I’m somewhat near there, but you don’t know exactly where I’m at. So it’s fine. There is a giant cross and right next to the giant cross is an adult world superstore, which is obviously a porn and sex shop, but also a strip club. And it has like couples rooms and massage rooms and things. So it’s a whole complex. It’s wild. But it’s right next to a giant cross. And the juxtaposition I find very amusing. A giant metal cross just overlooking the highway. And I wanted to go up there to be like, you know, the, as like a little on site bit. But I was going to take a picture of my car with both of those things in the background.

Justin [22:00]: But there wasn’t a good place to do that and I forgot to make a video or an audio thing about it. So I’ll have to go back up there. But I’m not going to go up there the way I ended up going up there the first time. Because the way you usually go up there is just you take the highway, you take 75 and you get off of the exit for it. And that’s boring because I saw there was a, that Google was giving me another option which looked like fun curvy back roads. So I was like, I’d much rather take a mountain switchback road up there. That sounds like a lot of fun. So I set my GPS and I head out and at first, yep, it’s a fun little mountain switchback road.

Justin [22:42]: And then it kind of turns down somebody’s like driveway weirdly. And then it turned into gravel and I turn a corner and there’s like four side by sides. Four or five side by sides. Sitting there at the base of this trail, just hanging out, waiting to go. And I’m just, I, at that point I’m like, oh, this is an off road trail. Not, not a back road. Got it. Okay. I probably should turn around, but you know, it’d be kind of fun to not. It’d be kind of fun to not turn around. So I’m gonna follow these side by sides and see what happens. It was listed on Google Maps as a public road. I’m taking it. So I follow these side by sides.

Justin [23:31]: They do eventually kind of pull away from me a bit because they’re definitely got, you know, they can carry a bit more speed than I can because yeah, it’s an off road trail. It’s a straight up switchback mountain off road trail. And I’m taking. My God dang Nissan Stagia with lowering springs and a fancy body kit that doesn’t give you a ton of ground clearance up this off road trail. And it’s sprinkling rain, so it’s not dry. My tires are some Nexon CP672 class premiers, which are generic ass, basic ass economy car tires. Nothing special, just some all seasons. Not even good all seasons. Now I have been absolutely thrashing them on the back roads around. Yeah, I have been thrashing them on the back roads around here and I, you know what? They’re, they’re fine. They’re fine. Just normal tires.

Justin [24:39]: They have good wet traction. They have decent dry traction. I got rid of any chicken strips they might have had, let me just say that. But they’re definitely not like Michelin Pilot sport fours or anything that I like. They’re not performance tires in any capacity. They, I can make them squeal pretty easy. Nonetheless, that being said, they’re definitely not off road tires either now, are they? So it’s wet, it’s muddy, it’s gravelly. But luckily I was, it did. I didn’t require much ground clearance because that was the one thing that I was worried about, that it was gonna. The, the road was gonna wash out a bit, was going to get real bad and I was going to need. I was going to get to a spot that needed real good ground clearance.

Justin [25:33]: I wasn’t going to have any and I was just going to have to turn around. Now. I was just taking this trip for fun, so it really didn’t matter if I had to turn around. I was just hoping that I was Going to be able to turn around and not have to back up for a while before, you know, being able to turn around. But luckily the trip or the trail, it. It never got bad enough. The trail stayed flat enough the whole time for my car to take it, no problem. It definitely had some really tight turns that were going like straight up the side of a mountain with a lot of elevation that were muddy, that I had to put some power down. Like my all wheel drive system was working, but I didn’t need any ground clearance.

Justin [26:21]: So I ended up making it. I made it up the mountain and. Yeah. And then I was disappointed when I got over to the adult superstore and couldn’t get both of the things in the same picture with my car. And I just. And then at that point, because it was so. The trip went so off the rails, I just wasn’t thinking and I just laughed and I left. So I’ll have to go back and make it. Make an on site report.

Caleb [26:51]: Absolutely. You should make the on site report. Maybe do the panorama shot. Use the panorama mode of your camera. Yeah, yeah, do it that way. That way we can bask in the ambiance.

Justin [27:06]: Yeah, I’ll take a. I’ll take a panorama, I’ll take a video, I’ll send it to y’. All. Maybe we can post it to the blue sky. But I did take the highway back and if I go up there again, I’m just taking the highway again. As much as that was a ton of fun and it’s hilarious how good the Stagia did off road with the garbage tires it has for that sort of activity. I’m not doing that again. Not anytime soon.

Caleb [27:39]: No, it took.

Justin [27:41]: It took like an hour and a half to. Google thought that because the speed limit on the road was technically 30, Google was like, oh, yeah, it’s gonna take you like 15 minutes to get up there. It took an hour and a half.

Caleb [27:58]: No, man. Last time I had one of those, it was back in the days before Google Maps or Android or really smartphones, which I’m dating myself here. And, well, wasn’t quite before smartphones, but was right around the time of the original iPhone. It came out. So. And my mom had just picked up a brand new 2008 Suzuki SX4 from a Suzuki dealership down in Muscle Shoals. Remember Suzuki?

Geno [28:42]: I saw one on the road this morning. I thought, anna, you don’t see those often.

Justin [28:46]: I saw Kazashi on Thursday. I love those things. They’re. The kizashis, are Great.

Caleb [28:52]: They really are. But mom got the SX4 hatch with all wheel drive.

Justin [29:00]: I love those things. I actually considered getting one. In fact. In fact, that would be a much more economical daily for me right now. I should probably look into getting one. Not to replace the stagia. I don’t want to get rid of it. It’s. I love it too much at this point. But as an actual daily instead of the stagia.

Caleb [29:20]: Yeah, I’ve. I’ve actually got the SX4 on my list too. So. Car buying advice from us. Go out, get yourself a SX4.

Justin [29:32]: I. I feel like there’s not. You. There’s no, there’s not a ton of defending it because it, there’s like, there’s definitely some critiques you could have about the car. It’s not the perfect car in its segment when it was new, this, that, the other thing. But I feel like over the years it’s matured as a used car into a fantastic deal and a wonderful car because they’re pretty reliable. The only, the worst thing about them that I remember is a. The automatics. I don’t know if it’s a CVT or not, but the automatics blow up. So that’s just more reason to get a manual one. Which a manual all wheel drive, little hatchback is that weighs basically nothing has to be.

Justin [30:15]: That thing has to be a blast to hit on some back roads especially or, you know, drive it around in the snow or some dirt or whatever. Rally it. Right. Thing has to be a ton of fun. So I want one. They’re cute. I like them.

Caleb [30:32]: So I. And I. It’s Italian design.

Justin [30:36]: Oh, I know what I was gonna say. I was just gonna say that Jeremy Clarkson impression. Good car or no, that was a terrible. Jerry. Hold on in the world. Good call. No, that was a terrible one too. Whatever. Keep it in,.

Caleb [30:51]: Keep it in. Let’s keep it.

Justin [30:55]: It’s a good. It’s a. It’s Jeremy Clarkson saying good car.

Caleb [30:59]: Yeah, what I was gonna say is, no, mom actually bought two of them because she bought. She traded her 06 Mustang in. Got one for herself and then one for my sister. And anyway, I borrowed mom’s and I’m, you know, driving out in the country as you do and it’s like, okay, you know, get starting to get a little far out now I’ll turn back toward town and like, oh, yeah, you know, my Garmin at the time, because again, this was before smartphone navigation. My Garmin said, oh, yeah, I take this road and so I took it and road went from pavement to gravel to mud. And I’m driving my mom’s brand new Suzuki SX4 that at the time had 200 miles on it.

Caleb [32:01]: And I am thinking, oh dear God, please Lord, please get me through this without scratching the paint on my mom’s brand new car. For she will kill me and I will be meeting you soon. And I got through it and I stopped, get out, look at the car. And it’s got red clay down both sides because it had rained recently. And I’m thinking I’m broke. And I look around and I have just enough money in the car with me to pay to run by a car wash and get this red clay off of it before I go back home. And me as, you know, 18 year old dumbass, I was just like mom, please. I was just thinking, please Lord, don’t let mom kill me. And later on I ended up going to did my first two years at Tennessee Tech up in Cookeville.

Caleb [33:14]: And mom didn’t trust my B13 Sintra to make it that far. So she gave me the keys to bet Suzuki. I gave the keys back to her two years later with over 70,000 miles on it. And she bought it with. When she gave me the keys that had about 1200 miles on it and I gave it back to her was 70,000. Two years later I was driving.

Justin [33:40]: But no, you were driving. So you have a lot of experience.

Caleb [33:44]: They are great car.

Justin [33:45]: Yeah, I was going to say you have a lot of experience. I’m sure there are. They have to be a lot of fun to throw around. They don’t weigh anything.

Caleb [33:52]: Oh, it is. So I had Bridgestone All Seasons on it and just like the Taranzas, whatever. And you remember, did you ever see Carson’s Prelude?

Justin [34:11]: Which one?

Caleb [34:14]: The red, the red one with the carbon fiber hood.

Justin [34:17]: Yes, the Honda Toon.

Caleb [34:20]: So Chip, I did the tune on that car or at least one of.

Justin [34:26]: The tunes on that car. It had NOS at one point, right?

Caleb [34:31]: I remember. Yeah, it had nitrous at one point.

Justin [34:35]: I think it was ridiculous. That was some Honda boy shit he take.

Caleb [34:42]: He had taken the front passenger seat out but the back seats were still in it. And I remember sitting in the back rear seat with like 10ft between me and the firewall with a laptop, you know, based doing data logging going around Knoxville. But no, I would that Suzuki though, you know, just plain old ordinary automatic SX4 with all wheel drive. There were a couple roads I could easily put, I could put some Distance between us running up in the Cumberland Plateau. Like if a road ever straightened out, he had me. But as long as.

Justin [35:28]: Yeah, those things have what like 148 horsepower or something.

Caleb [35:31]: It’s. It’s. Yeah, it’s. No, it’s 160 at least via 08 I think it was 160. It was 150 or 160. And it was before they went to the CVT. It was. I think it was the refresh in 2010 where they switched to the CVT. So the earlier ones were just a plain old ordinary four speed automatic four speed. But it was a good car. Yeah. 07 Through 09 were four speed.

Justin [36:04]: What in the. What year is it? I know, I know you said 070. I’m saying like. I’m saying like it’s. It’s not 1996. What the hell.

Caleb [36:18]: And you know, it was a perfectly functional cromulent economy car and if I kept my foot out of it, which didn’t happen much.

Justin [36:30]: But you don’t. We’re going anywhere otherwise.

Caleb [36:35]: Now if I keep my foot out of it, I could pretty consistently with the automatic still get between 38 and 40 to the gallon.

Justin [36:43]: Holy cow. And that’s an all wheel drive car. Is it a full time all wheel drive system or a kicks in sort of system?

Caleb [36:51]: So it’s a. You can. If you leave it in all wheel drive, it’s a full time system but you can just put it in two wheel drive and you’re probably not getting 40 mileage and too. Yeah.

Justin [37:04]: So it’s like a legit. It’s just a. If you want all wheel drive. It’s just all wheel drive. That’s pretty good. I like that actually.

Caleb [37:14]: Yeah. And no it was a great car. Shockingly comfortable for what it is. I have.

Justin [37:23]: I can imagine. It seems. It still seems like a very tin can of a car. So it probably has a lot of wind noise.

Caleb [37:30]: Not really. It’s shockingly.

Justin [37:32]: It’s pretty quiet.

Caleb [37:33]: Shockingly. Shockingly well put together. Yeah, it was pretty quiet. Suzuki, it was a good car. I’m telling you.

Justin [37:42]: Good car.

Caleb [37:44]: And unfortunately that car and the orange one that. Cause my mom bought a white one for herself and an orange one for my sister. That copper burnt orange color. And yep, I know those Suzuki’s saved. They saved both of my siblings lives because.

Justin [38:08]: So they’re safe and everything. So you’re telling me they are basically a fantastic car in every capacity.

Caleb [38:14]: Yes, I am.

Justin [38:16]: Well now I want one even more. Why are you telling me this?

Caleb [38:20]: Yeah, so My sister was driving home after work one night, got hit head on by a drunk driver. Walked away without a scratch.

Justin [38:32]: Holy shit. Holy shit.

Caleb [38:34]: And my brother, bless his heart, he was 16 and dumb as all 16 year olds are, that comes with the territory. I was 16 once. I was a dumbass. But. And I live to tell the tale, but my brother, there’s, you know, basically that same area where I hit the mailbox in the 740. Anyway, there’s a road up there in that same area where again it’s a series of 90s. But if you miss it, there’s a deep ravine that goes down and then back up. And if you miss the turn, you plant the nose of a car into a rock embankment. My brother planted the nose of my mom’s Suzuki, the one that I drove and put so many miles on. He planted it nose first in that embankment doing about 60 and he walked away with nothing but scratches on his arm.

Caleb [39:46]: And the way kind of it was set up, the front of the car was embedded in the ground one end and the back of the car, the rear bumper was on the other end of like you know, the ravine because it was a little narrow one and there was enough room where you could walk underneath the car. That’s how deep this thing was. And my brother, his daily at the time was a 2010 Dakota which I borrowed a few years ago for reasons of stupid. But anyway, mom gets there, state troopers are out there, my brother’s there. First thing my brother says to mom when she gets there, I’m glad I wasn’t in my truck.

Justin [40:44]: Oh, that’s not the right thing to say.

Caleb [40:48]: Cause no, I shit you not. This was the week after she paid it off. This was the week after she paid it.

Justin [40:59]: That sucks.

Caleb [41:02]: Yeah. And state trooper just looked at her and said you want to kill him? I won’t say nothing, but it was. But it really was a good car. Those little Suzuki’s, they saved my siblings lives and they’re great fun to drive.

Justin [41:26]: Can you imagine a. Can you imagine a one on coilovers, some nice sticky tires, manual transmission, short shifter, maybe some if not just an intake and an exhaust. I mean that would be a fantastic car. But imagine even with a little turbo on it.

Geno [41:46]: Woo.

Caleb [41:48]: I mean stock, they are shockingly capable.

Geno [41:51]: Imagine instead of that, it’s a 96x90.

Caleb [41:58]: It is good. It is good.

Justin [42:00]: A term. A lowered on coilovers sticky tire. Turbo manual, X90. Is this what you’re proposing?

Geno [42:10]: I mean just any X90 manual, but.

Justin [42:14]: Think it’s but think about, think about what? I think about it being like street prepped. That would be, that would be insane.

Geno [42:22]: Like that would actually cool because it just be like a dumber looking Miata which I’m here for.

Caleb [42:31]: Now. Here’s. I’m gonna throw, I’m gonna toss this one out here. Slammed Jimny.

Geno [42:38]: All right, I’m here for it.

Justin [42:40]: Sure, why not? I mean normally I’m against like doing that to an off road thing but like yeah, it would look cool.

Caleb [42:49]: Mind you I say this because the Suzuki, the closest Suzuki dealer is right across the street from where we like to go to the beach so.

Justin [43:00]: Oh, I completely did not even comprehend the fact that you have access to Suzuki’s still. What the hell, I’m jealous.

Caleb [43:08]: They sell one model here and it’s vijimny good enough.

Justin [43:14]: It’s a good model.

Caleb [43:15]: We also got the second gen SX4 intriguing which is not a good vibe mostly because it was beat up side of a grill with an ugly stick.

Justin [43:25]: That’s unfortunate Suzuki. There’s not a ton of super ugly Suzuki’s except like the X90. So like that’s unfortunate.

Caleb [43:34]: See the X90 wasn’t like. I would argue the X90 wasn’t actually that ugly, at least by modern standards. I feel like we have taken ugly to a whole new level recently.

Justin [43:52]: While. While contextually I agree that’s true. I think that you can’t remove it from the. Just because something these days is more ugly doesn’t mean that’s not ugly. We’ve just raised the bar on what ugly can be. We just have a higher ceiling that we even knew was possible. Which is impressive honestly. But I do still, I will stand my ground to say I think the X90 is ugly, but it’s ugly in an endearing and novel way that I enjoy. So I think it’s kind of cute. Yes, but it’s not ugly.

Caleb [44:26]: The Vehicross Via Zuzu also falls into that category. I think the.

Justin [44:33]: It also falls into that category as well. I was thinking the same thing. Or like, or like Pontiac Aztec.

Geno [44:42]: Yeah, it’s. It’s ugly but it’s kind of like. It’s novel.

Justin [44:47]: Exactly. Yeah, it’s different.

Geno [44:49]: Something like it’s an. It’s the first endearing Nissan Murano that’s just insipid.

Caleb [44:57]: Hey had one redeeming quality, the Cross Cab.

Justin [45:04]: Hell yeah. It’s disgustingly ugly but it’s amusingly novel.

Geno [45:11]: That yeah I’ll accept that. But otherwise the first gen Murano it’s just it couldn’t even fully commit to being hideous in the way that something like the Cube could. It was just, I think insipid was the word for it. There’s nothing. Nothing redeeming about it. Nothing interesting. It’s just the Cube.

Justin [45:32]: The Cube. The Cube, yeah. The Cube had character. It was novel. And also the thing I loved about the Cube the most is it felt the closest to a. Because it was that in a Scion xb. The closest to a weird JDM car that we’re gonna get here.

Caleb [45:48]: Yeah, yeah. Especially with the. Especially the Cube with the little shag.

Justin [45:53]: Carpet on the dash and the asymmetrical rear window that wrapped around the side. I actually think I big fan of the Cube. Cubes of a funny car. I always liked seeing him in Gran Turismo. And then, and then when they brought him here, I was like, yes, please, yes, bring more weird Japanese here, please. That is not something I ever thought would have been sold here just because of how quirky it is.

Geno [46:19]: Yeah, there’s a guy I used to play DND with who had one and like we roast him about it a little bit, but it was always kind of neat. It’s like, oh, it’s a interesting car.

Justin [46:29]: At least, you know, it’s at least an interesting car. And you know what? What?

Caleb [46:36]: When they adapted the Cube for left hand drive, that included moving the wraparound window to the other side.

Geno [46:44]: Nice.

Justin [46:47]: That’s awesome. So they really put some effort into it, I hope. I think they probably sold a decent amount. I mean, it was a. It was a relatively successful car in the States, surprisingly, for what it was.

Caleb [47:00]: Yeah,.

Geno [47:02]: That was the time of cool cars, that D and D campaign. There was the guy with the Cube. I was driving in that campaign. I was either driving the swag in Mark 1 or later or one of my 780s or at the tail end of it. Well, at the tail end of it. I had my first. My first Subaru that got rear ended on the way to a session. I remember that the 03 Forester or. And then the. Then the V70 XC that you also saw that I replaced it with. And during that time, let’s see, there was the guy with the cube. Our DM had a Saturn SL2.

Caleb [47:53]: Those are good.

Geno [47:54]: And then a friend of mine who was playing had an. Oh gosh, what year was it? But she had a yellow Hyundai Tiburon, the gt which. The only thing that could have made that car better was the six speed. She had an automatic.

Justin [48:14]: Wait, so like a. Later, like A later. A later Tiburon or an early one?

Geno [48:19]: Yeah, the later one, I think it was. What was the last year they made those like 06.

Caleb [48:26]: I want to say 06 or 0.

Justin [48:27]: No, they made them. They made them until like they made them until like 2010. Hold on, I’ll look it up.

Geno [48:37]: Oh, eight.

Justin [48:39]: Wikipedia says 08. Okay, never mind. 08.

Geno [48:44]: Yeah, so they said. I think hers was an 06 GT in yellow. It was a freaking sweet looking car. Build quality.

Caleb [48:55]: Yeah.

Geno [48:55]: You know, it was a Hyundai.

Justin [48:56]: What are you gonna do the first generation one or. I guess. Yeah, the first generation one in the US with the weird headlights. Ugly, ugly. Yeah, but in it. But. But once again, in kind of an endearing way.

Geno [49:13]: Right, but the second gen looked sick.

Justin [49:16]: The second gen is a pretty attractively designed vehicle.

Caleb [49:19]: Yeah, it really is. And yeah, I’m just. I like them.

Geno [49:25]: Wasn’t the second gen. If it wasn’t done by Pininfarina. It was certainly inspired by.

Justin [49:31]: Well, let’s see. I have the Wikipedia open. Let me see.

Caleb [49:33]: I don’t remember, but pin in Farina.

Justin [49:37]: Yep.

Geno [49:37]: Yeah, that’ll do it.

Caleb [49:39]: Of course.

Justin [49:40]: That’ll do it. That’ll do the trick.

Caleb [49:42]: Fun Italian friends. Speaking of good old Pin and Farina though, Fiat coupe for 90s one.

Justin [49:50]: Oh. Oh, I love those. You know what I’m seeing here on the Tiburon Wikipedia page is the first generation model outside the US Had a pre facelift that didn’t have ugly headlights. And it looks a lot better, I believe.

Geno [50:08]: Yeah, so would I.

Justin [50:10]: Can I. Yeah, the. Here, I’ll send it the yellow one.

Geno [50:12]: That’s Wikipedia page is pretty much exactly my old roommate’s car. Just. Just the right color for that car. It looks so good. Like if I could find one of those from California in that color and a six speed, I’d pick something like that up. It’s. They’re just neat.

Justin [50:33]: They’re neat cars. They are. And I’m sure. And I. I’ve never driven one, but I can’t imagine they’re not. Not fun to drive.

Geno [50:40]: Oh, it was fun to drive. Even with the automatic. Yeah.

Justin [50:44]: Good stuff. Good stuff.

Geno [50:46]: This is probably a good time to segue to our. To our end with our remarks on the new. The.

Justin [50:56]: Yeah. Talking about car design, you say Ferrari Prius cut out for me.

Geno [51:03]: I said Ferrari Prius.

Caleb [51:06]: Yep.

Justin [51:06]: That’s pretty much my opinion on it. You know, Nissan is insulting to the.

Geno [51:12]: The new Prius redesign, which actually looks better.

Justin [51:16]: Yes, I agree completely. And the. Wait, I’ll let Kayla I’ll let Caleb go.

Caleb [51:22]: Yeah. See, from. I look at it and I think, you know, of course, I’ve never been a big Ferrari fan, but I just look at and I think this is. What the hell? Why are you spending $600,000 on something that looks like an Apple watch inside and a generic subcompact on the outside?

Justin [51:52]: So my take is I. I see the 70s, the late 70s Ferrari design influence in some of the interior things like the 512 BB and such. I see kind of what they were going for. But the car is too much of the shape of every other damn ev. Like y’ all are saying the floor is too high. They try to hide it with that black line. It’s just. It’s a weird shaped car. I don’t like it as a Ferrari. That’s not the shape a Ferrari should ever be. Even the puro song or however the fuck you pronounce it is at least designed in a way that seems athletic and seems like a Ferrari. And I see like Mondial in it, which isn’t a bad thing necessarily. Ferrari doesn’t have to. Every Ferrari doesn’t.

Justin [52:46]: Has not always been like this super wide hipped, like, performance y thing. You got Mondial. You got like the 410. You got some more Ferrari designs that are a little more pedestrian that I still think are classic Ferrari that I really like, but they just did not execute very well at all with that exterior. It looks like donkey doo. But the thing is I’m a big fan of how quirky it is. It’s got really. It’s. The wipers are on the pillars. It’s got that. The, the. The. The fact that the thing. Because the wipers are. Because the front of it dips down and it looks like the windshield extends all the way up into the scoop there. They had to do that with the wipers. I get it. It’s quirky, it’s cool. But, like, the design just doesn’t fucking work. It’s ugly.

Justin [53:34]: It doesn’t look like a Ferrari. The rear end, sure, it’s got Ferrari tail lights, but it looks like it’s just eating Ferrari tail lights. It’s not cohesive. It doesn’t fit. And the wheels that they chose on the blue one look like some aftermarket, disgusting knockoff nonsense wheels from the mid 2000s. They’re terrible. What were they thinking? But the disagreement that I have with a lot of people is with the interior. I adore the interior. Oh, my God. I think it’s amazing. I love that they went with. They completely changed the style they went from. They changed it from being fully modern to going with a like 70s Ferrari Retro. 70S 80s Ferrari Retro inspired interior. But they executed almost perfectly with the modern touches and everything. I don’t mind the little screen you move around. I don’t mind that.

Justin [54:34]: I love the shape and the design and the thinness of the steering wheel. It’s the thinnest modern steering wheel I think I’ve seen. And it’s such a good design if you’re trying to make a classic looking interior. The little pockets in the doors that kind of like the cutouts, the sculpting of the leather on the doors. The just the little fine details of it are so perfect. Like a Perfect Modern Recreation of 70s Ferrari interior design language. It’s. It’s like the stuff like Singer and these like these retro. These resto modding companies like Singer and stuff do where they take the classic design of the interior but bring it into a modern area, modern era with more modern materials and tech and things. But even. But another step forward because it’s a fully clean slate design from. Yeah, Johnny I’ve. Who.

Justin [55:32]: Yeah, it does look kind of like an Apple watch and an Apple product in a lot of ways. But I really like it. I think he knocked it out of the park. It’s. I like all the tactile switches and things that are in there. It’s got a weird little gauge thing. Like it’s got a circular gauge thing. I forget where it is. That’s kind of like on the movable pod that’s like separate. I just really like the interior. I could go on for fucking days about how much I like the interior. I don’t even mind that it’s electric. I would. Yeah, yeah, I can. Yeah. You know, Ferrari should sound good. But if there’s going to be an electric Ferrari with that interior, I’m excited to see the exterior. And then I saw the exterior and what the fuck, it’s a Nissan Leaf.

Caleb [56:23]: I mean so here’s my thought looking at the proportions of it. But the proportions, at least from the side view remind me a lot more of Valencia Delta than Ferrari.

Justin [56:41]: That’s what I was trying to say. I think I made a comment about that on Blue sky where if you badge this thing as a Lancia, I would not bat an eye at the exterior design being. Being wrong. I would just think it’s cool and quirky.

Caleb [56:56]: Yeah, that’s.

Justin [56:58]: And that’s really. It’s very.

Caleb [57:00]: Boils down to it don’t look like a Ferrari.

Justin [57:03]: It don’t look like a Ferrari. That’s the problem. Even with the, like I said, the subtle touches from the old design, from older design languages they had the throwback, the circular taillights, the black. Just certain design touches are very definitely Ferrari. But as a cohesive thing, it doesn’t come together as a Ferrari. It is not more than the sum of its parts. It’s each individual part make it. They don’t work together, which is just unfortunate.

Caleb [57:32]: Less than the sum of its parts.

Justin [57:34]: Yes, it’s less than the sum of its parts. Yes, it’s unfortunate. And I don’t even think modern Ferraris are. Well, I was just going to. Last thing I was just going to say I don’t even think that modern Ferraris are ugly. Some of them are. But a lot of people have a big issue with Ferrari’s design ever since they dropped Pin and Farina. And as much as I think that Pin and Farina is a better design house than Ferrari’s in team house, I don’t think I do like some of the designs that have come out of Ferrari over the past. You know, since dropping Pininfarina, I actually like the design of the F80. I think it’s fucking cool looking. I really like the Amalfi or whatever the. The California type like segment car, the convertible grand tourer. I think that thing is beautiful.

Justin [58:29]: The 812 is really pretty or whatever the hell they’re calling it now. They’ve got some misses but this for this Luce is. I don’t know if Johnny. I’ve helped design the exterior because if he did, bro. No, stick with the interior. Holy shit. But that’s all I gotta say.

Caleb [58:48]: All right, so before we sign off here, I would like to invite all of our listeners to send us a mail@mailbagropodcast.com. Leave us your questions. Comments tell us how we are completely wrong about the Ferrari Lucci. But also, what is your worst automotive purchase? We like to know and we will read your answers on the air.

Justin [59:18]: Yes, that sounds.

Geno [59:19]: Before we go, you said the. The Luce costs 600 grand.

Justin [59:26]: Does it?

Caleb [59:26]: Actually, yes, that would be. It’s like 650 grand.

Justin [59:32]: So are we talking US dollars?

Caleb [59:37]: US dollars?

Geno [59:39]: What the.

Justin [59:42]: No, never in a million years. That’s why.

Caleb [59:47]: That’s. What about a thousand Volvos for us probably.

Geno [59:53]: That is.

Justin [59:55]: That’s two Cadillac Celestics, which I would much rather have.

Caleb [01:00:01]: That’s a house and a Fiat Uno and still a few hundred grand. To spare and the Uno, like if I’m in looking car, if I’m in.

Justin [01:00:13]: The market, if I’m in the market for dumping 600 grand, I’m not 16.

Geno [01:00:18]: Was 16 of the highest trim, all wheel drive, 2026 Priuses in the expensive color with a sixth of a, or with 2/3 of a Prius left over.

Justin [01:00:34]: No, I mean at the end of the day, if you want a 1000 something horsepower, extremely luxurious, half performance electric car, there’s about 20 options that are under 300 grand.

Geno [01:00:52]: I mean I’m just gonna go with. Let’s be, let’s be real. Toyota will give you a volume discount that’s 17, maybe 18 pre I fully loaded with all wheel drive and 200 horsepower which is, let’s be real, all you’re really gonna be using every day.

Justin [01:01:11]: No, no, I can, I, I understand your point, but I’m trying to say that if you’re legitimately in the market for something like this, which I would never be, but if for some reason you are, it’s the worst option.

Geno [01:01:27]: I’m just gonna say like the Prius better looking. Too true. Maybe a hot take, don’t care.

Justin [01:01:34]: Yeah, no, that is actually, that’s a, that’s 18. I, I think the Internet would say that’s a pretty cold take. I think most people actually do have somehow agree with that and surprisingly I agree with it. I, I just, it’s just surprising that the Prius is actually a good looking car these days.

Geno [01:01:53]: I mean like here’s what I’m gonna say. If you’ve got the money to buy this Ferrari Instead, buy 18 Priuses at a volume discount and start a Prius spec racing series. That is a better use.

Justin [01:02:06]: That’s. Yeah, no, 100% true. Yes, I can agree with that.

Geno [01:02:11]: If somebody makes spec Prius happen, I don’t know, but I’ll be very happy because that would be, that’d just be fun raising it.

Caleb [01:02:20]: Would it? Really and truly it would be. So if anyone is out there from the 24 hours of lemons, organize a spec Prius class.

Justin [01:02:34]: That would be fire inspect Prius class and lemons.

Geno [01:02:36]: And then like bring on spec Prius, baby.

Justin [01:02:39]: Spec Prius. And then, and then tell the WRC or whoever runs rallycross events, I guess Red Bull does sometimes, whoever runs rallycross events that we need a spec rallycross Prius.

Geno [01:02:53]: Oh man, I gotta get my friend Joel on here who used to do rallycross in a car that he sold me.

Justin [01:03:01]: I want to see Prius hit. Prius’s hit jumps. That’s all I’m trying to say.

Geno [01:03:07]: That was a. That was a great car. That 96 Neon that he sold me after he took his. His home brew lift kit off of it. God, I love that car.

Justin [01:03:19]: Neons. Neons are good cars.

Caleb [01:03:22]: Neon is good car.

Geno [01:03:24]: It’s how you tell car guys apart from like, well, cool car guys apart from dickweed car guys. Cool car guys think neons are neat.

Justin [01:03:33]: Yes. And the Neon is a truly great car. I didn’t realize how all of them rusted away up north because I. I just. I just blocked them out of my mind and just didn’t think about them. But I had not. I don’t think I saw, had seen. I think I’ve seen maybe. Maybe over the course of all the years, the what, three, four years I’ve lived in Ohio, I think I’ve seen like one or two SRT4s. And the second I get down to Tennessee, I’ve already seen two.

Geno [01:04:05]: They’re gone.

Caleb [01:04:07]: Yeah.

Geno [01:04:09]: I will say this. If you want a nice Neon, my friend Joel has a 98 ACR intense blue with. With dealer optioned cruise control.

Justin [01:04:23]: Because that did not come in ACR with cruise control. Whoa. I kind of want that. That’s pretty great.

Geno [01:04:32]: Willing to sell to somebody who he knew would enjoy it at a not unreasonable price.

Justin [01:04:40]: What’s a. What’s a better daily here in Tennessee? A Neon ACR or a SX4?

Geno [01:04:49]: The ACR is on mopar high rates and has a solid bobble strut and mounts. It will not. It will vibrate your fillings out, but you’ll enjoy every second of it.

Justin [01:05:00]: Sounds good to me.

Caleb [01:05:00]: Yeah. The SX4 will probably not vibrate your fillings out.

Justin [01:05:05]: Well, luckily I don’t have fillings, so I’m willing. I’m down for anything anyway.

Geno [01:05:10]: Yeah.

Justin [01:05:11]: All wheel drive swap the acr.

Geno [01:05:13]: Somehow my Joel’s acr. Because if I can figure out a way to want to do it myself, I will. And I definitely don’t need to do that.

Caleb [01:05:24]: Yeah. I feel like Ann would have something to say about that.

Geno [01:05:29]: Yeah. How do I put this? If I were to buy that acr, I would be single with four cars and no home.

Caleb [01:05:42]: Yeah, that would be a significant. That would be a significant problem.

Geno [01:05:46]: Yeah.

Justin [01:05:46]: Yeah. That might not be. Yeah, might not be. It might not be a big dog. Unfortunately, neon dreams must. Must sit idle for now.

Geno [01:05:58]: I’ll have to get off to get Joel on this at some point. He. He’s got some good stories.

Caleb [01:06:03]: Absolutely.

Geno [01:06:04]: Joel would be good on this. My buddy Chris would be good on this. He’s the one who just bought the S2000.

Caleb [01:06:11]: Oh, those are good cars.

Geno [01:06:12]: You know what’s awesome? 9,000 RPMs.

Caleb [01:06:16]: Absolutely.

Justin [01:06:18]: Yes. 9,000 RPM.

Geno [01:06:19]: I have never. I’ve driven a lot of fun cars and I have never had a bigger shit eating grin on my face than hitting the rev limiter on that S2000.

Caleb [01:06:30]: Like I will say I have. I’d say second gen RX7 for me is what gives me that grin. But Doritos are something else.

Geno [01:06:44]: I have a. I have a spinning Dorito friend too.

Justin [01:06:47]: I need to drink.

Geno [01:06:48]: Although he sold his spinning Dorito to another buddy of his.

Justin [01:06:52]: I need to drive.

Geno [01:06:53]: He had a. He had an RX name.

Caleb [01:06:56]: You do.

Geno [01:06:58]: Wait, wait, wait. I have us the worst idea I’ve possibly ever had. Rear wheel drive, converted spinning Dorito Neon.

Caleb [01:07:11]: I could dig it.

Justin [01:07:15]: That might be one of the best ideas you’ve had, actually.

Geno [01:07:19]: Honestly. Or any sort of like rear wheel. Mid engine Neon would be stupid.

Justin [01:07:25]: Mid engine Dorito Neon, Shogun and Neon.

Geno [01:07:28]: I mean the RX7 technically was mid engine because the entirety of that thing sat behind the front axle.

Caleb [01:07:36]: Yep. It was.

Justin [01:07:38]: Okay, wait.

Caleb [01:07:40]: I need to hear me out Bob on here at some point.

Justin [01:07:42]: Hear me out. Mid engine Dorito Neon hatchback.

Geno [01:07:47]: That’s a lot of body work.

Justin [01:07:50]: I mean you just gotta believe. Or you could take. You could take the back from a Magma or a. Or a. No. Are you familiar with a nitro? Take the. Take the hatch from a nitro.

Geno [01:08:09]: Do y’ all remember the. The Oldsmobile Toronado?

Caleb [01:08:13]: Yes, I do.

Justin [01:08:14]: Yeah.

Geno [01:08:15]: One of my worst automotive decisions. Buying a 72 Toronado from my uncle.

Caleb [01:08:22]: I feel like we need to save this for our next episode when we talk about.

Justin [01:08:26]: Yeah, that sounds like. Not. That sounds like a wonderful story.

Geno [01:08:30]: That car particularly. But there. Somebody did a thing with the Toronado’s drivetrain layout. They called. I think it was called the terrifying Toronado where they put an entire second drivetrain in the back and built a.

Justin [01:08:48]: I think I’ve seen that. Yeah.

Geno [01:08:49]: It was an old Toronado with two 455s that would roast the tires all the way down, all four tires for the entire quarter mile as God intended. Do that, do that. But with a Dodge Neon. And honestly, you don’t even need the SRT drive. Just two dock 2.0s, one front, one back.

Caleb [01:09:17]: Yep.

Geno [01:09:18]: 300 Horsepower, all wheel drive, five speed.

Justin [01:09:22]: I’m doing it with a PT Cruiser convertible.

Geno [01:09:24]: God, that’d be sick. Okay, but if you’re doing the PT, you do the turbo, then do the PTGT.

Justin [01:09:30]: That’s what I’m saying. PT Vert GT, all wheel drive, 700 horsepower. There we go.

Geno [01:09:39]: God, that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. And now we need to figure out a way to make it happen.

Justin [01:09:45]: Oh, oh. And with the wood. With the wood paneling. With the wood paneling.

Geno [01:09:52]: Oh, of course. The wood paneling’s not optional. The three of us in a pt. In a.

Justin [01:10:08]: Oh. Oh, my God. That would be so great.

Geno [01:10:14]: Like dumb. Bench racing needs to be another episode.

Caleb [01:10:19]: Yes. Oh, Lord.

Justin [01:10:21]: All right, let’s get out of here.

Caleb [01:10:25]: All right, good time. Last word for our listeners.

Geno [01:10:28]: Check your oil.

Justin [01:10:30]: Yeah. Don’t forget to check your oil.

Geno [01:10:32]: Your tire pressure. If you don’t get a coolant flush, probably. Because I’m sure you never have.

Justin [01:10:39]: Get rid of them chicken strips on your tires.

Caleb [01:10:45]: Change your brake fluid. Probably time.

Justin [01:10:48]: Change your blinker fluid.

Caleb [01:10:52]: And your blinker fluid. All right, y’, all signing off.

Geno [01:10:55]: All right, later.

Justin [01:10:57]: Take care, everybody. See you all next time. Bye.