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Episode 10: The International Race of Glizzies
Where the guys discuss tactical glizzies at 9000 RPM
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Radio Announcer
Já terminamos o episódio de Pausa de Hidratação. Aqui é a Hammpions FM 42.0, parte da Rede Hammpions Broadcast International. Nosso próximo programa ao vivo das nossas afiliadas no Rio de Janeiro, Knoxville e Minneapolis: The International Race of Hammpions. in English.
Caleb
Good morning and welcome to the International Race of Champions coming to you live from where you get your podcasts. Tonight I am joined. I'm Caleb and I'm joined here with Justin and Gino.
Justin
Yo.
Caleb
And we got a good show for y'all. So let's get started. So first of all, we need to check in with the Glizzy Gladiator of the Great Lakes. And see how much glizzy did you gladiate?
Geno
I mean, if we're going just by numbers since the, since the beginning of the month, we're gonna go with, uh, let's say half of— no, let's say 7. So average 1 a day for the month of July so far.
Caleb
All right, so average 1 glizzy a day. Not too bad, not too bad.
Geno
Went to the, uh, went to the, the Saints game, got the, the Land of 10,000 Calories, uh, split that with some of my friends. That's a beautiful, beautiful thing. It's a— that's, uh, for the uninitiated, that is 6 foot of hot dog topped with mac and cheese, pulled pork, jalapeños, and it's served with French fries. And the good French fries, the battered French fries.
Justin
Oh yeah. Man, I haven't eaten yet and I don't have anything really all that good for dinner.
Caleb
You're, you're just— He's making us hungry, man.
Justin
I'm gonna go out and get a hot dog.
Geno
A lot of times food as a spectacle, they don't make the food good. Not the case here.
Justin
Not, not this time.
Geno
Like, everything was very well made. And honestly, like, at a ball game, like I think it was a little over $100 for that, but 14 people were amply fed off of it. So at a ballgame, I'm gonna say it's the best value in the ballpark.
Caleb
There we go, folks. The land of 10,000 calories. It is worth every single calorie.
Geno
We went, uh, today we went to a place, uh, we went to Lucky Dogs in Bemidji. Gotta Got a hot dog there called Burning Rubber, and it's, uh, topped with chili, hot sauce, jalapeños. Delicious.
Caleb
So the real question is, is it real hot sauce or is it Minnesota hot?
Geno
It could have been hotter, not gonna lie. It's still very good.
Caleb
Could have used a little fire in it.
Geno
Mm-hmm.
Caleb
But then Going on? How's the reservoir report this week?
Justin
It's been raining. It's been storming. I went down to Knoxville for 4th of July, hung out with some friends. That was fun. Didn't really do any car related— oh, this morning I had to take the dog to the vet. And I can report that The Stagia is a 10 out of 10 dog transport.
Caleb
10 out of 10. Perfectly cromulent.
Justin
Yes, more than perfectly cromulent. Over the— on the curve of cromulence, it is hitting an exponential.
Caleb
Ooh. So it's on— yeah, it's on the good side of a bell curve.
Justin
Yes, yes. Now, I mean, right now it's not in per— okay. In its current configuration, I'll give it an 8, maybe a 7. Uh, with proper configuration, it's a 10. I just don't have the, uh, the mesh, uh— oh gosh, what do you call it? There's like a— there's a partition.
Geno
Like a dog gate?
Justin
It's a dog gate. Yeah, it's literally what it's for. So like, that makes it a 10.
Caleb
Not bad, not bad.
Geno
Back when I had the, uh, the Grand Swagonier, That I took down to visit Caleb the one time.
Caleb
Yep, I remember the Grand Wagoneer. That was an awesome vehicle.
Geno
It was real. I was, I was dinking around in the back of her, and, uh, that particular vintage of Volvo station wagon had a dog-like mesh that pulled up out of the back of the seat. It was just a factory option, pulled up out of the back of the seat, clipped to the The roof.
Justin
That's wild. So, um, I mean, I don't know if the Stages is explicitly a dog gate. I mean, it's a, it's a, it's a mesh gate. It doesn't go all the way to the roof. It's just sort of like a half, half height. Um, but it's— so it's, it's just more of a general purpose partition, but it would work perfect for, um, our dog Sherlock, uh, because I needed him closer to up front because he's all wobbly and I wanted to make him like sit down and like if he was going to get flopped around somewhere and if I had a brake hard or something, I wanted to grab onto him and I could because he was right there. But then sometimes without the dog, without the gate, he would walk out to the back and look out the back window. And I mean, he was having a fun time, but I was like, bro, you got to get back up here.
Caleb
Oh, man.
Justin
Because he's old. He's all old and wobbly. So he's just, you know, if he was young, he can, he can deal with himself. But he's old and wobbly.
Geno
Well, whomst among us?
Justin
Yeah. Yeah.
Caleb
Whomst among us has not been a little bit wobbly sometimes? Then I can report from the Acts of DMV department that after passing a rigorous battery of psychological and physical exams, The state of Rio de Janeiro Department of Transit has deemed me fit to drive on Brazilian roads. Hey, congrats.
Geno
Throw in some reggae horns here. Yeah. Yep.
Caleb
I get to, uh, yep. I get to go back for another SAC exam and a physical in 10 years.
Justin
Hey, 10 years.
Caleb
10 years.
Justin
You're, you're good for a minute. You can go, you can go as crazy as you want to be in these next 10 years.
Caleb
Something like that. Something like that. But no, they do. Probably my favorite one of the tests is they make you sit there and draw lines on a piece of paper for 5 minutes to test your ability to focus and concentrate and not get bored out of your fucking mind.
Justin
That's rough. I don't know if I could do that.
Caleb
And oh man. And you know, like the whole pattern matching IQ test thing, they do that too. They give you a damn IQ test to see if you're fit to drive.
Geno
And, uh, that would never work here.
Justin
And sorry, sir, your IQ is too high. We can't give you this license.
Geno
What are you trying to drive? Oh, an Altima. That makes sense.
Caleb
I know someone, bless her heart. She's tr— she tried 6 times and kept getting failed for anxiety on the psych eval.
Geno
Ooh.
Justin
I thought you were going to say, bless her heart, she drives a Nissan Altima.
Caleb
No. Uh, I don't think there would be much driving involved even if she had an Altima.
Justin
Did they even sell the Altima in Brazil?
Caleb
They sold the OG Altima, the one that was a Bluebird. So the good one.
Justin
Yeah. The early '90s one?
Caleb
Yeah.
Justin
Still a little jelly bean though, right?
Caleb
Yeah, the bubble era jelly bean. Yeah. Those were good though. The later ones are— later ones are a little bit rougher.
Justin
Nissan Nissan. Okay, how do— what's the best— what's the best way to put this? Nissan received a traumatic brain injury in 2003, but it didn't fully manifest in psychosis until about the year— anywhere from 2007 to 2013. I, I'd say probably closer to 2013.
Caleb
So Nissan is the RFK Jr. of automakers.
Justin
Yeah, there's a brain worm involved.
Geno
That actually makes a lot of sense.
Justin
Because there was like, they had a big— but like, I think there was, I think they hit their head because there's a big old personality change in about the year 2003, but it didn't come to bite them in the ass until later.
Geno
It is wild that every single thing they make now is ugly too. Like, Even the GT-R, as much of a technical car as it is—
Justin
I don't think the Z is. I don't think the Z is. I like the Z. I think it's a pretty car. I legitimately, fully like the design of it. No notes.
Geno
Hot take, but okay. I haven't liked the Z since the, since the '90s Z.
Caleb
Yeah, um, I'm kind of with Gino on this one. I think the Z32 was the last good Z. I think the current one don't look— it don't look bad, but—
Justin
See, that's— look, this is coming from somebody who has owned a Z. I've owned a Z31, and I think the Z31 is kind of fucking ugly. I think it's cool, it's retro, it's '80s, but it's ugly.
Caleb
Oh, it absolutely is.
Justin
I think the, um, the, the 2 Zs— I think it was 2 the 2 before it, and the 240Z being original, but it was the 240, then the 260, and those were gorgeous.
Caleb
Yeah. And then you had— 280 was okay.
Justin
You had the 280Z, and that which was okay. The 2+2 kind of was ugly. Then you had the 280ZX, which was kind of ugly. And then you had the Z31, which was ugly. Then you had the Z32, which, which is amazing. Z32 is great. I mean, it's— I don't know how— okay, sometimes the way I see cars is they have sort of an emotional— obviously cars have faces and such to a lot of people, right?
Caleb
Right.
Justin
But to me, that also adds to sort of like the emotional aura of the car in a sense. And a Z32, a Z32 to me gives like 2 things. Either way, the person is in like their mid-40s and they're burnt out, but they are either a professional woman who has a lot of wrinkles because she is really like— she has been through a lot, and that's why she's like kind of squinting a little bit. She's like, ugh. Or it's some like some former high school bully who's a little drunk and he's kind of angry. But there's somewhat of sort of a respectable aura to it because they know who they are and you know who they are and they're not bullshitting you. And they honestly, they're still really, at the end of the day, they're still an attractive person physically. So it's like, you see what I'm saying? Anyway.
Caleb
I kind of get where you're coming from. Now, I will say I have a take on the Z33. To me, the Z33 reminds me of, you know, that kind of sleazy high school girls' basketball coach that's a little bit— you know what I'm talking about.
Justin
I know, I know what you're saying, but I'm about to add another layer to it that I think you'll agree with.
Caleb
All right.
Justin
They also run the youth Christian organization at the school that's associated with the sports teams. Mm-hmm.
Caleb
So, the one at my high school, because he drove a Z33, bless his heart. In his case, he was the school's IT director.
Justin
But, yeah, it's not that bad. See, the thing is, the type of person, see, the thing is, is I'm not describing the type of person who drives the car. The type of person who drives a Z32 or a Z33, we can get into that. And I think you were saying part of that. Well, what I'm sort of saying is, if the car was a human being, who would they be?
Caleb
Ooh, yeah.
Justin
That's what I was describing with the Z32. It was— I was personifying— I was personifying the car.
Caleb
I kind of think the personification and the people who drove Z33s new are pretty similar.
Justin
Now, now, now, at the same time, the people who drive it can absolutely influence the personification of the car. But I feel at this point with the Z32, it's so old. It was before my time. I don't remember who would have bought it new. I can imagine, but I don't have that association. The only association I have with it at this point is from younger car enthusiasts. So I'm going to disregard that and just look at the car as what aura does it give in terms of its face, in terms of its vibe, in terms of its— in its time compared to the other cars in its that it was competing with. The Supra was like curvy, right? The 300ZX was like athletic but heavy, so sort of like a rugby player but also kind of curvy. Um, not the 300ZX, the, um, why can't I think of the name? The, the 3— the 3000GT.
Caleb
The GT.
Justin
Yeah, yeah, it was thick but also athletic, right? Um, And, um, and but like kind of curvy and like muscular at the same time. Um, the 300ZX is sort of like a brute. Like, it wasn't sexy, it was like angry, but not, not curvy.
Caleb
It's like the linebacker on the football team. Yeah, but, but like very fast in a straight line and it can turn. But at the same time, it'll also punch its way through just about anything.
Justin
I think it feels serious, but at the same— like, the external design, the vibe of the car, the suspension, the design, etc., feels serious, but then the engine feels like a tractor engine. So I don't know what kind of person that would be. Like, they're like a serious professional person, but like, at heart, they're like a farm girl or something. Like, I don't know.
Geno
I'm just going to go with— I'm coming back to this point. You could buy it with T-tops and that makes it better.
Caleb
This is true.
Justin
So it's slutty.
Geno
Yes. The Z33, I always just thought was goofy looking. And I think my feelings on the Z33 have extended to the following 2 generations.
Justin
Yeah, it's— yeah, I, I've never really felt a huge draw towards them, but I have a lot of— I think over the years I'm finding more and more appreciation for them just as, as traditional rear-wheel drive, naturally aspirated sports cars.
Geno
I have a— so I have a lot of affection for them as transmission donors for better cars.
Justin
Yeah, and like, I do have like a lot of formative like Z experiences in terms of the '33 and the '34. Um, my, uh, when I was growing up, um, the few years I lived in Ohio when I was growing up, when I was a kid, um, which cemented my car enthusiasm because my across-the-street neighbor had a Tri-Five Chevy, and in the beautiful show, show car, um, my up-the-street neighbor had a Cobra kit car, Shelby Cobra kit car, classic blue and white, blue with white stripes, as it should.
Caleb
Mm-hmm.
Justin
And my 2 doors down neighbor had a brand new bright or whatever, like a nice blue 350Z. I forget what blue that is. It's not super dark, but it's also not super bright. It's just a straight up in the middle blue. It's beautiful. And I, and I thought, and I was, I thought very highly of that car. at the time. As time went on and I grew up, you know, was like a teenager car enthusiast, I kind of lost respect for the car, even though it was sort of like— when I was playing like Need for Speed and stuff, I didn't— it wasn't my favorite. Um, growing up even more especially, I started like hating on VQs because it's funny to hate on VQs because they do sound kind of—
Caleb
um, yeah, it's a VQ.
Justin
But they are great motors, they just sound like trash.
Caleb
Oh yeah.
Justin
Um, and, uh, but now, like I said, now that I've— I'm older, I've matured, um, I'm taking away some of that reactionariness to the car, and I'm thinking about it in its own— as its own thing. I don't— especially the Z33, I really like the way it looked. Um, and I kind of— I kind of— they've kind of— they've grown on me. They've grown, especially that early 2000— or 2003 to 2007-ish Nissan sort of blocky design, like the round design, but then they had those like, um, indents and all their stuff that had like blocks. Like this, like the, the rear strut tower bar had like that, that pattern in it.
Geno
Yeah.
Justin
The fucking— the next, the second generation Stagea had that all over it. Like think Infiniti G35, that all that era of Nissan stuff. I kind of actually have an appreciation for at this point. It's actually held up pretty well design-wise. At the time, I didn't love it.
Geno
Looking, looking at the picture of the Z33, it's not a bad-looking car, but whoever was responsible for those door handles should be beaten about the head.
Justin
No, and the, the, the, the door handles, I don't know, I think they're cool. I'm gonna defend them.
Caleb
I mean, that's fine.
Geno
You can do it. Like, you know, I'm sure John Wayne Gacy was a good clown too, you know.
Justin
Goddamn it. That was good. That was good. Okay, wait. So the Z34, I have a foundational connection with because one of my good car friends when I was in high school, Um, he had a baby blue Z34 and he passed away. Uh, he crashed it and passed away. So, uh, yeah, that was sort of like— I think of whenever I see a Z34, especially in that baby blue color or French racing blue, kind of almost, I think of him. So I do like— I do have like connections to the cars. I do like the cars. And like I said, as like a thing.
Caleb
Yeah.
Justin
They're fantastic on paper, and I'm sure they're a lot of fun to drive. I've driven a, like, a drift spec Z33 once, actually. Actually, now that I— it had a, it had a slipping clutch, so I didn't— couldn't go crazy, but the thing was such a go-kart. It was so much fun. Okay, now I take it back. I can't hate. I kind of want a Z33 now. Shit, I've convinced myself.
Geno
No, no go-kart car will ever impress me now that I've driven an A1 S2000.
Justin
Okay, I haven't driven an S2000, but I've driven an— I've driven an NA and an NB Miata, both with coilovers. I've driven a, um, a 240SX on coilovers, and I've driven, um, that, that Z33 on coilovers. And there— I mean, in terms of— I didn't go crazy with any of them, so they felt all similar, but I love that go-kart sort of There's nothing that compares to bouncing off a rev limiter at 9,000 RPMs. I need to drive an S2000. Have you driven an NSX?
Geno
No, I would love to drive an NSX.
Justin
Okay, I'm going to employ some one-upmanship and be an asshole and say, well, I've driven an NSX.
Geno
Oh, man, let's see.
Justin
The most recent thing. First gen. First gen NSX, and it was manual. As God intended.
Caleb
I can one-up both of y'all because I have driven the rarest modern Honda, which was built on the assembly line by hand alongside the NSX. The ZE1 Insight.
Justin
Okay.
Caleb
Total production, 17,000 of these things. across 6 years.
Geno
Dang.
Justin
Insights are fricking cool.
Caleb
It was built on the same line as the NSX. I didn't know that.
Justin
That's wild.
Caleb
In the same colors as the NSX.
Justin
Even that bronze?
Caleb
They did not offer the bronze by that point, but the Insight color selection was limited to NSX options. Except for the green.
Justin
I was about to say, wait, somebody should paint an NSX in that green then.
Caleb
Somebody should. And NSX seats will bolt into an Insight.
Justin
That's crazy.
Geno
Although in a more cursed way, Insight seats will bolt into an NSX.
Justin
All right, so are we, are we Insight swapping an NSX or are we NSX swapping an Insight?
Caleb
Yeah. Ooh, that's a tough question.
Justin
And if we're NSX swapping the Insight, it's mid-engine.
Caleb
Oh yeah, of course. I mean, so yeah, there's, there's my one-upmanship. I have owned an Insight.
Justin
All I have to say is, for every single person out there, y'all, but anyone listening, if you ever have the chance, or if you ever can go out of your way to get the chance to drive a first-generation NSX, especially a manual one, And especially if you're in a situation where you're allowed to kind of send it a little bit. I know it's known for its handling, so, you know, enjoy that a little bit. Don't go too crazy, especially if it's not your car. But make sure you— make sure you do a pull through second, like first, second, third on an on-ramp or something, because I don't know how to describe it, but it's a spiritual experience. I've driven a V10 R8 and that was amazing. But even then, I don't know why, but that damn V6 sounds so good and it feels like you're hitting warp speed with that car. It feels so much faster than it is. It feels like you're Star Wars freaking hitting light speed. I don't know. It's insane. It's so cool. It's such a cool car. It is a spiritual experience to drive one. I don't know what they did to that damn thing, but it's voodoo magic. Everyone needs to drive one.
Geno
Honda really put the care and attention into every aspect of like those special cars. The NSX, like every detail inside the factory is tuned so perfectly. Like, I can't— like driving my friend's S2000, I can't imagine an aftermarket exhaust that would sound better. Like anything you changed would would make the car less than it is.
Justin
They are truly, uh, they are truly more than the sum of their parts. Like, on paper, they're the perfect car to be like, well, on paper they're not all that good. Fucking drive it.
Caleb
Yeah, I mean, and y'all know I am a— I am the world's biggest inside advocate.
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
Like, that is my role on this podcast, is to evangelize the Insight.
Justin
Did you see that one YouTuber guy put a Harbor Freight Predator in an Insight?
Caleb
Yeah, I did. But no joke though, hon, like even the Insight Honda, the bits that you touch and the controls are perfect.
Geno
It's, it's almost like the anti-Viper where they're just like, where the car is like, you look at the Viper, the car itself gorgeous, the engine Insane. The fit and finish, it's a neon.
Justin
Yeah, somehow the Viper is less than the sum of its parts, but that doesn't— but like, it doesn't matter. It could be literally a frame and a V10 engine and you're having the same experience, and that's a fantastic experience.
Geno
Like, it'll, it'll shove you through the back of the seat.
Justin
Yes, yes. It, it like overcompensates with how crazy it is. It doesn't need to be good in any other capacity. It's got a V10. Fuck you.
Geno
Interior, we don't need that. We're a Dodge Viper.
Justin
Yeah, yeah. So it does the job in an entirely different philosophy, but the job is still done by both cars, which is, that was fun.
Caleb
Of course, my other weird insight factoid I will drop on y'all Honda, in their infinite wisdom, used the same steering wheel on the Insight and the S2000.
Justin
Good.
Caleb
And an S2000 gauge cluster will drop right into an Insight. Good.
Justin
Make it rev to 9K.
Caleb
Uh, that's what the K-swap people do.
Geno
With a tach that goes to 9K.
Caleb
Uh, we call that, uh, K-Sight owners.
Justin
Yeah, what's the stock engine in an Insight? And how's the transmission? How's all that work? Because I know it's a hybrid, but you got a manual.
Caleb
So, so the way the Honda system works, um, I'm going to reach conveniently behind my laptop real quick and get my—
Justin
I baked this earlier—
Caleb
my 1:43 scale New Formula Red Insight model.
Justin
That's insightful.
Caleb
Quite insightful. So the way the IMA system works on the first-gen Insight and the CR-Z and the first-gen Civic Hybrid is you have your motor. In the case of Insight, it's a little 3-cylinder, 990-something cc thing. You know, good long stroke, short, small bore. So really torquey off the bottom end.
Justin
Yeah, that's what my girlfriend says.
Caleb
And then paired with this behind that—
Geno
Is that why he lives in Canada?
Justin
Yeah. Ex-girlfriend, sorry.
Caleb
And then you have a little pancake electric motor that is mounted to the back of the motor, basically. And then coming off that pancake electric motor is your flywheel and your clutch and your manual transmission.
Justin
Okay, so it's more of an electric assist to the combustion.
Caleb
Exactly.
Justin
Interesting. So it's like an e-bike.
Caleb
Exactly. That's exactly what it is.
Justin
Except instead of you, it's a motor.
Geno
It's such a weird setup. Like the Say what you will about the driving experience on them, but the Toyota, the Synergy Hybrid Drive is such a brilliant system.
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
Yes.
Geno
And how it works. And like, Honda's just like, motor, engine, bam!
Justin
Put them together. That sounds almost Italian. No, no, no, no. Cut that out. That's almost—
Caleb
So the brilliance of the Honda system. Is you get the joy of a Honda manual transmission with it.
Geno
Yeah, that's nice.
Justin
It's true though.
Geno
Honda knows how to make a manual. I've never shifted a nicer manual than an Honda. And that includes that SL55 Benz I ripped around in one night when I was a valet. Yeah.
Justin
Yeah, I'm trying to think of a notchier, better manual I've driven, and all the Hondas that I've ever driven Well, not all of them. I've driven some with completely wrecked bushings, but any of the Hondas that are in good shape that I've driven, yeah.
Caleb
Yep. And one of the joys of the Insight is a Prelude short shifter kit works on the Insight.
Justin
Okay, but what if you made the 3-cylinder in the Insight rev to 9K?
Caleb
I mean, Yeah, she's already running out of steam at 6.
Justin
Yeah, it revs to 9K. Sure, it only makes 30 horsepower at 9K, but, but it's there. It's there.
Caleb
Yeah, they spinning.
Justin
That's what the electric motor's for.
Caleb
Yep, spinner. Yeah, I got the electric motor spinning up in that Up 9,000. So since Gino is the only one here that spent some time in an S2000 though, and talking about the 9,000, when you were taking it to redline, did you yell, it's over 9,000 when you crossed the 9K threshold?
Geno
Well, see, that's where you get the fuel cut.
Caleb
So no. Yeah.
Justin
I was going to say, did you hit the fuel cut?
Geno
Like it just bounced off the rev limiter at 9,000. It was like, oh, all right, time to shift.
Justin
You're just like, all right, first gear.
Geno
Yep.
Justin
I'm not, I'm not gonna shift. Oh, it's gonna stay here all day. That's fine, it's fine. If it was a rotary, I'd like it.
Geno
Yeah, no, see, until it puked the apex seals.
Caleb
You know, as an FC owner, the driving experience was like Beep beep beep beep. Fine, I'll shift.
Justin
You know, it's completely random, but the Stagea beeps when you put it in reverse. Not the outside, the inside. Oh, oh Lord. It has saved my ass a couple of times, but it's, it's obnoxious when you have to reverse for a long period of time.
Caleb
Ooh, I can only imagine.
Justin
It's just beep beep beep beep beep beep beep. It's like, at least it doesn't have a speed chime.
Caleb
Ooh, that would suck.
Geno
Oh man, that would suck on American roads. As the owner of multiple 240s, we can talk about annoying chimes. That 240 door chime, I think the first one I bought, one of the first things I did was figure out where that was under the dash and rip it out and throw it as far as I could.
Justin
Oh, we were talking about Z31s. You know, in the fancy Z31s, you open the door and it's like it has a computer robot voice. It's like, door open.
Geno
Didn't the, uh, didn't the SVX do that as well?
Caleb
I think so.
Geno
I don't know.
Caleb
And Wasn't it the Chryslers that went, the door is ajar?
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
No, the door is a door. The door is not ajar.
Geno
Are you stupid?
Justin
The Chryslers had more of a robot voice. I actually think the Nissans, if I remember correctly, actually it's less of a robot voice. I think it was just a recording of someone's voice just played over and over. I think it was on like a tiny record.
Caleb
Yeah, it was a mini record player.
Geno
There was one of them that was basically a tiny little phonograph.
Caleb
Yeah.
Geno
That would do that. That was built into the vehicle. Wild shit.
Caleb
It was good though, man. Yeah, the, uh, oh man, I miss, I miss when cars were interesting.
Geno
Yeah, it was the, that was the 200SX or the Z of that same era.
Caleb
Yeah, and I think the Mazda—
Justin
I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna argue that cars are still interesting. Just not in the American market and maybe not the Brazilian market.
Caleb
I don't know. We still have some— we still got some interesting weird ones here.
Justin
So you still got some stuff in Brazil. I would say the car markets in the rest of the world that were previously underdeveloped, that's where the interesting cars are now. China, Vietnam. Not, not interesting in a good way with Vietnam, unfortunately for them.
Geno
Malaysia.
Justin
What other countries are making some weird cars these days? Just all of these markets that were underdeveloped. A lot of them are coming out of the woodwork, especially China, of course. And, you know, some of the weirdest, quirkiest, strangest cars I've ever seen are coming out of China. So there's some cool stuff. It's just we don't— we don't get it here. Yeah.
Caleb
And I've spent some time recently in some Chinese cars because I have yet to purchase something down here.
Justin
Do they sell Chinese cars there?
Caleb
Oh yeah. Huh.
Justin
I thought— so even with Brazil's market being protectionist, Chinese cars, they're still, uh, they're cheap enough, I would guess.
Caleb
BYD and Chery and Changan and GAC, so Great Wall. They have all built plants here or are in the process of building plants here.
Justin
Oh, sick.
Caleb
And the Brazilian government was kind of— the way they did this, I gotta give them props. They were like, okay, you can bring your Chinese market vehicles in on the condition that you stand up an operational factory to supply the Brazilian market.
Justin
Yeah, yeah, you can come in, get your groundwork, get your dealers built out, start building cars. Yeah, that's smart.
Caleb
And but yeah, like, I see Geelys all the time. About half the Ubers I take are BYDs now.
Justin
Oh yeah, you did send something. See, I just totally forgot.
Caleb
Then I had a JAC, took a JAC as a Uber to when we went and saw the Supergirl movie a couple of weeks ago. Great movie. Awesome soundtrack, by the way.
Justin
What about the car?
Caleb
The car? Uh, I would have liked it better if the seatbelt hadn't been stuck up on my side. So, but the car itself, I mean—
Justin
Are we going to, are we going to blame Uber? Are we going to blame the build quality?
Caleb
This car led a hard life. The shocks were blown on it. So it was a little bouncy back there with no seatbelt and, you know, head bouncing off ceiling here and there.
Justin
But were they playing any music?
Caleb
We're not playing any music.
Justin
Okay. See, music choices of Uber drivers is always intriguing to me. Maybe I should, every time I take an Uber, if they're playing music, maybe I should write down what they're playing.
Caleb
Yeah. Like here, most, yeah, here most of them are on the JB 99.9, which that's just, it's basically '70s through 2000s rock music. You know, a bit of American rock, bit of Brazilian rock.
Geno
Just.
Justin
That checks out.
Caleb
Yeah. Good rock music. Good stuff, man. The, uh, when I went to the, uh, when I went to Detran, uh, you know, to kick off the paperwork process and, uh, get the paperwork that says I could go and get my physical, the guy was listening to like wildest kind of right-wing macho talk, borderline misogynistic talk radio. I was like, good Lord.
Geno
Yeah.
Caleb
This is what they have on the talk radio here. Like, this is worse than my country.
Geno
That's tough to do.
Justin
Is Bolsonaro still in Florida?
Caleb
No, he is currently in jail in Brazil.
Justin
Oh yeah, that's right. That's right.
Caleb
Good. Now he's got one of his kids is in Texas, you know, living on the grift. The other one's running for president. Of course, I'm getting ready to go to car shop and all that. And, uh, you know, I think it— so I've been sending the wife links to things. Hey, you know, what do you think of this, honey? You know, darling, what do you think of that? And, uh, good news is we've narrowed it down to 2 that she likes. Well enough for me to go look at. So I have narrowed it— we've narrowed it down to within the city of Rio. We found a '95 Mitsubishi Lancer, not an Evo.
Justin
We could change that.
Caleb
It is a manual.
Justin
Okay.
Caleb
And the other one that we found that we both like is a '99 C20 Xsara, the Xsara thing they did. So again, this is going back to, you know, your Gran Turismo 2 days, you know.
Justin
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to vote Citroën every time.
Caleb
You know, funny. Cause that's the way my wife voted too. Out of the two, she likes it better. All right. Oh my gosh, he likes the color.
Geno
I'm just gonna go with the flow then. Hop on that bandwagon.
Caleb
And, uh, so yeah, it's looking very likely we're gonna be having a French— we here at the International Race of Champions are going to have yet another French car in the fleet.
Justin
Somehow I predict That some insane circumstance is going to happen that is going to require you to purchase a Dodge Durango. This is the tarot card that I just pulled.
Geno
Oh boy, I did, uh, I did ball joints on one of those once, and, uh, I'm not in any hurry to repeat that experience.
Caleb
The Durango is a life choice.
Justin
That's— yeah, yeah.
Caleb
And I say this knowing that one of my neighbors has a chud friend who drives a blacked-out V8 Durango with the, you know, the blacked-out American flag decals.
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
Yeah. This chud has one of them in the, on the backside winders.
Justin
In Brazil?
Caleb
In Brazil.
Justin
In Brazil?
Caleb
And then this joker's got the Punisher skull. I mean, this is a really, really excellent American chud cosplay. Let me tell you what.
Justin
And God bless America.
Caleb
God bless America. And I am 99.9% sure I know the way this guy votes too.
Justin
Are you sure he isn't just cosplaying ironically?
Caleb
Given the demographics of my HOA, I lean toward not cosplay.
Justin
Do you think he's actually an American?
Caleb
I do not know.
Justin
Or is it some, or is it some America boo?
Caleb
Oh, we have lots of America boo here. And you can usually tell which side of the political aisle they're on because they make it obvious.
Justin
Well, that sounds pretty American to me.
Caleb
I keep telling my wife our 2 countries have way more in common than they don't. She gets offended by that because it's usually after seeing some sort of Bolsonaro supporter.
Justin
I mean, it's true though. Uh, we're, we're sort of like, uh, we are fraternal twins separated at birth.
Caleb
Yeah, I mean, we really kind of are. And on the more positive cultural alignments though, uh, the food. So I no longer find myself quite as homesick for Tennessee cooking after living here. Yeah.
Justin
But what about the barbecue?
Caleb
Yeah. Don't really have the pulled pork, the slow cooking here. Unfortunately, I need to work on introducing that.
Justin
What about the glizzies?
Caleb
Do have glizzies. So the Brazilian style glizzy.
Justin
I love how we've all collectively just— everybody has just been like, yeah, we should call them glizzies. Actually, that's— everyone has decided this. Yeah, I love it.
Caleb
This is collective.
Justin
This was— this literally— this started as like COVID-era TikTok slang, and now everyone and their fucking mom is like, yeah, glizzy is the perfect name for a hot dog. I, I mean, I agree, but it's just hilarious. It is very funny.
Geno
At least, uh, at least my mother hasn't started saying back shots yet.
Justin
No, no, no, no, no, there's shit like that that's starting to happen though. Um, and, and then the other thing that's crazy is that, um, you know, it's COVID-era fucking TikTok slang that fucking Gen Z picked up, but at the same time it came from fucking slang for a fucking Glock. Like, glizzy means a fucking Glock. It's a gun.
Geno
It is very funny.
Justin
It's great.
Geno
So what I'm hearing is we need to have a tactical hot dog holster.
Justin
Yes, we need to have an extended mag hot dog. A footlong with a switch.
Geno
You know, you start saying footlong switch, we're gonna have a whole different kind of podcast.
Justin
Damn, it's not even Pride Month anymore.
Caleb
No, man. So a Brazilian glizzy is cooked in kind of a—
Geno
It's got a little strip of hair above it, right?
Justin
Or is it, or has it been, or has it been, uh, has it been artificially plumped with injections? I'm sorry, Brazil. I'm sorry. Don't come for me.
Caleb
We're gonna be at y'all's hearts if we ever come to visit.
Geno
We're getting stopped at the border for this one.
Caleb
No, man. So it's cooked in kind of a—
Justin
Lula's in the background just shaking his head.
Geno
Man. I can't stop making jokes, but I actually do want to hear about this hot dog.
Justin
Me too, me too. I'm sorry, I'm done.
Caleb
No worries. So it's cooked in kind of a tomato sauce. You put your hot dog in with a little bit of tomato sauce. And then you put your ground beef on top of it. And then your potatoes. And then your corn. And then your, like, you know, like the little potato straw things? Like you put on a casserole?
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
Yeah, put those on top.
Justin
Wait, wait, potato straws or onion straws?
Caleb
Potato.
Justin
Okay.
Geno
Like shoestring potatoes?
Caleb
Yeah, shoestring potatoes, that's it.
Justin
Like, or are they like the dried potato?
Caleb
It's like a potato chip, but—
Justin
Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know what you're talking about. Yeah.
Caleb
Yeah. So you cover it in those and then you try to eat this thing and you end up with a, just a standard Brazilian hot dog weighs like 2.5, 3 pounds.
Justin
Is it, is it a beef hot dog generally?
Caleb
So generally it's a, it's either beef or beef and pork.
Justin
Okay.
Caleb
There's always some beef in though.
Justin
Always some beef. And no chicken hot dogs.
Caleb
No, we don't have that heresy here.
Justin
Good.
Caleb
And you actually use like, you know, like the mini baguettes from the bakery.
Geno
Yeah.
Caleb
Yeah. That's what you put it on. Because a normal hot dog bun don't have the substance to hold it.
Justin
So somebody, somebody needs to explain to me why American hot dog specialty places that are popping up all over the place haven't done a Brazilian dog because I haven't seen one.
Geno
Man, move up here. We'll start a hot dog place.
Justin
Let's do it.
Caleb
Let's do it.
Justin
Um, the— oh, we could call it, because it's in Minnesota, so it's cold, we could call it, um, the Glizzard.
Caleb
Ooh.
Justin
We could also serve ice cream, I guess.
Caleb
Yep. Needs ice cream. You need ice cream. The Minnesota Glizzard.
Geno
Sounds too much like a gizzard though, which I'm all for eating because they're delicious.
Caleb
Absolutely, 100%.
Geno
Like a fried— nothing like a good fried gizzard.
Caleb
I know, right?
Justin
I actually haven't had one.
Geno
Remedy that situation at your earliest convenience.
Caleb
So I was trying to explain the joy of fried chicken livers. To friends here. And I mean, you know, folks eat liver and onions here, so it ain't that far of a stretch. But the thought of, wait, you batter it like you do fried chicken and you deep fry it. The thought of just deep frying a liver didn't compute for some reason.
Geno
I've never seen those. I do. I've got a, I got a whole lot of chicken livers saved in the freezer that I'll probably do like a liver pâté with at some point.
Caleb
So there was one Popeyes in Leavenworth that used— that had fried livers.
Justin
Really? A Popeyes?
Caleb
Really? A Popeyes.
Geno
In the stockade?
Caleb
In, uh, no, in the town of Leavenworth. And, uh, man, they were good. And then, uh, there's a local chicken chain down there in Kansas City. That's— they also have real good fried livers and gizzards. And I don't remember the name of it, but it's the OG location's on State Street in Kansas City, Kansas. And then they got one at 51st and Troost in KC Mo. So right around 51st and Troost. And stop in there, get you an order of livers and gizzards.
Geno
Yeah, I might have to do that next time I'm down that way.
Justin
I mean, traditionally does not sound appetizing, but I'm willing to try it.
Caleb
Yeah, but I'm a sucker for good livers though.
Justin
That's no alcohol.
Caleb
No alcohol.
Justin
Teetotaler.
Geno
Yep. That's, that's this podcast.
Caleb
Yeah.
Justin
Is, is it this podcast? I don't think so.
Geno
A reference to a cheap beer in the name?
Justin
Yeah, this is a vehemently, uh, anti-alcohol podcast.
Caleb
Yep, absolutely zero alcohol is drunk on this pod.
Justin
No novelty beverages.
Caleb
None at all.
Geno
We did actually stop by— there's a, uh, there's an NA bottle shop up here called Mississippi.
Caleb
Oh.
Geno
And we did stop in. They got some neat things. And as I'm getting older, I'm like, you know, I should probably drink slightly less.
Caleb
Yeah.
Justin
Yeah.
Caleb
I mean, that's part of why I've adopted the, uh, zero alcohol one for at least editing days.
Justin
I'm drinking for the podcast.
Geno
Do it for the gram.
Justin
Do it. I'm doing it for the gram. I feel like if I ever do disappoint myself and develop an, an, an unkickable alcohol addiction, I think at that point there's only one option, and that's to move to Wisconsin.
Geno
Yeah, it'll just look normal there.
Justin
Yeah, I won't have to feel bad about it then.
Caleb
And gentlemen, I believe that is a pod.
Geno
I think you're right.
Caleb
All right, so we got any last word for our listeners?
Geno
Team lift if you feel like you need to. That's my advice.
Justin
Oh, that's good advice.
Caleb
That's real good advice.
Justin
Uh, take a deep breath and don't forget to check your oil.
Caleb
Probably low.